Tag: aegina

  • Germany and Greece, and specifically Aegina 

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    I cannot really claim I’m supporting the initiative. Persons I am with, such as Bhakdi and some MDs of the club MWGFD (Doctors and Scientists for Health, Freedom and Democracy), support it, so I am ready to do something, if needed. But I still have not understood more than that they want to stress the double meaning they see in ‘reformation’ (as reforming the church and reforming capitalism).

    What the reformation yielded in the past 500 years was far less than what people needed. Luther himself was by no means revolutionary, not even progressive – as far as my poor history knowledge goes; I think, he
    was just defiant. Later, protestant pastors were the first ones to join Hitler and nowadays the ‘vaccination’.

    It may be my fault, but I do not really know which demands the initiative has, other than any Merz or Mitsotakis would underline (‘justice’, ‘democracy’, ‘peace’ etc. – the way everyone means it).

    Of course, I don’t have the better initiative concept. And the collection of demands (attached, possible red lines in red) I presented to two groups (for deciding, whether they would offer Maria (Karystianou) to cooperate at elections on this basis), would not discuss it: For Omades.gr I was suddenly a betrayer, and “Oliki Epanekkinis” (A comprehensive new start) have been postponing any conversation for several months now.

    In other words: I do not care too much about what or whom I like or dislike, I rather try to ask concrete questions – with no success. And I do not know the concrete questions / demands of 31/10.

    Aris Christidis

    From W.H.

    When he was here in Athens with Reiner Fuellmich in 2022 Dr. Bhakdi, like Reiner, said how moved he was to be present in “the cradle of democracy”. When my wife and I are in Athens, we live in a flat that is very close to the Acropolis, in the heart of the Acropolis tourist area, so we are very familiar with the spiraling hordes of “pilgrims” from all over the world, and increasingly from what used to be called “the Third World”, who are swarming to this shrine of democracy at a time when democracy is in shocking disrepute, attacked both by its enemies and by its groupies.

    What can one say about this assertion? “In a dictatorship corruption at the top is the norm. In democracy it is generalized.”

    It is a belief adhered to, mostly dogmatically, by what “we” (?) call “the right”.” My preference is to present it as a question and a “challenge”.

    Some years ago, before the degeneration of the U.S. Democratic Party became so extreme that it was impossible to be associated with it any more, there was a discussion of democracy under the auspices of the now defunct Hellenic American Democratic Association (HELADA) in Athens, informal representative in Greece of U.S. Democratic Party voters (with a small input from more active cadres).

    I made the point there that until the nineteenth century what in the twentieth was called socialism went under the name of democracy, with broadly accepted pejorative connotations. But when in the twentieth century positive connotations came to be associated with the term “liberal democracy” there was no corresponding transference that could  legitimate the term “liberal socialism”.

    Here in Aegina there have been by local standards large demonstrations with two epicenters: on the one hand the ruination of the local health center under the pressures of state level policies of privatization of the health system (these demonstrations have carefully avoided “conspiracy theory” analyses that bring up the 2020 and subsequent “COVID” atrocity [and by extension discussion of Reiner Fuellmich and/or [more recently] Arno van Kessel] and on the other the Tempi railway atrocity and subsequently criminal cover-up. They have been led locally by two women, both teachers – one state sector, the other a private entrepreneur, one a dedicated member of the Greek Communist Party, the other a granite-hard opponent of “party politics” who nevertheless, unless I am mistaken, would like to see Maria Karystianou (the very
    high-profile bereaved mother leading the campaign against the Tempi atrocity and cover-up) involved in forming and leading a political party.

    These two mobilizations should be collaborating in Aegina, but they are not and I am not confident that they will in future.

    Would it be possible for the passage in Herodotus that throws a light on Persian discussions of democracy in antiquity to be brought to the attention of Dr. Bhakdi? The Greek historian Herodotus grew up in the Persian Empire, was evidently rather sympathetic towards Darius and – like the oligarchic elite of the time in Aegina, hostile to the imperialistic Athenian democracy – he presumably sided with Persia during the initial conflict between the Persian Empire and Athens [but not later, when Xerxes took over from Darius].

    In my opinion Mrs. Karystianou’s blistering (and effective) attacks on Greek prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis would be improved (through liberation from the reactive mode) if the evocations of democracy were left out. The morality-based petitioning reflex is not persuasive in today’s horrible situation.

    If the aspiration is for equality between interlocutors, the would-be divide-and-rule response amounts to a rejection of the other side’s wish to be treated as an equal. And the ultimate perfection of divide-and-rule [and rejection of equality] is political marketing (give them what they want [as long as it is what we also want!]) The saga of the Greek-Australian political analyst Kosmas Samaras is a fascinating case in point. He and his collaborators have turned the Australian Labor Party (a very ‘woke’ Labor Party) into something approaching permanent pseudo-one-party domination of the Australian state of Victoria, and to an increasing extent Australia as a whole, clearly with the encouragement of the Chinese Communist Party, which evidently believes that today’s Chinese system provides better safeguards against corruption than Western “liberal democracy”.

    When Yanis Varoufakis founded his pan-European citizens’ movement DiEM25 in Berlin in 2016, what he had in mind has clear similarities with the objectives of today’s Reformation 2.0 reformation-2.eu/

    Varoufakis  received exhortations  at that time that he should be starting his campaign in Greece, and specifically in Aegina, which is one of his places of residence. Did his preference for Germany have anything to do with the fact that the German Federal Republic provided a
    refuge for him and his parents’ family at the time that the 1967-74 junta was in power in Greece and social democrats (Brandt, Schmidt) were in office in Western Germany? In any case, as it turned out, it was only in Greece that DiEM25 (and the party that inevitably came to supplement it) acquired any parliamentary representation (albeit temporary).

    After the beach meeting that DiEM25 held in Aegina in the summer of 2016, Yanis Varoufakis was invited to speak to HELADA in Athens. His unforgettable answer was (smilingly): “Why should I do that when I can speak on CNN?”

    Nowadays he has moved his attention to BRICS.

    What now?

  • Reiner Fuellmich

    Philippe Carillo’s video on Reiner Fuellmich is programmed for screening in the context of the summer Film Festival at the Kollatos estate in Aegina on Sunday 24th August (at 10 p.m.) It will be accompanied by other coverage on Fuellmich, who of course was at the centre of attention in Athens after the “COVID” outbreak in 2021 and 2022, together with fellow dissident Sucharit Bhakdi, when both spoke to a large crowd of health workers and others at the Parko tis Eleftherias. .

    There will also be information and video footage on the related issue of New Zealand’s Maoris. (!!!)

    Fuellmich was kidnapped by German government agents in Mexico in 2023 and is now a political prisoner in Germany.

  • O Reiner Fuellmich

    Το βίντεο του Philippe Carillo για τον Reiner Fuellmich έχει προγραμματιστεί για προβολή στο πλαίσιο του θερινού Φεστιβάλ Κινηματογράφου στο κτήμα Κολλάτου στην Αίγινα την Κυριακή 24 Αυγούστου (στις 10 μ.μ.). Θα συνοδεύεται από άλλo υλικό για τον Fuellmich, ο οποίος βέβαια βρέθηκε στο επίκεντρο του ενδιαφέροντος στην Αθήνα το 2022 μετά το ξέσπασμα του «COVID»,https://rumble.com/v1ld3m5-24922-live-sucharit-bhakdi-reiner-fuellmich-.html  (απο το λεπτό 1.19.36)  μαζί με τον σύμμαχο του τον Sucharit Bhakdi.

    Επίσης θα έχει πληροφόρηση και βίντεο για το σχετικό θέμα των Μαορί της Νέας Ζηλανδίας. (!!!)

    Ο Fuellmich απήχθη το 2023 στο Μεξικό και τώρα είναι πολιτικός κρατούμενος στη Γερμανία.

    Wayne Hall, Nikos Vakolidis

  • Capodistrias Spinelli Europe

    A video from 2008 (above)


    THE ROLE OF ALTIERO SPINELLI ON THE PATH TOWARDS EUROPEAN UNION (PDF)

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  • Has the European Union been a bad idea?

    As a first (and hopefully not last) step towards an objective discussion of today’s situation of the European Union, outside of the logic of parties, parliamentary and “media” conflict, on 16th July there was, with the compliments of Mr. Paschalis and Mrs. Salomi Melissaris, a screening of an extract from the paper presented in 2009 by Mr. Ioannis Coccalas, entitled “From Altiero Spinelli’s Draft to the Treaty of Lisbon”. As Deputy Director of the European Parliament’s office in Athens, Mr Coccalas was at that time one of the speakers at the “Ioannis Capodistrias, Altiero Spinelli, Europe” conference held on 21st June 2009 in Aegina.

    An introduction to the 16th July screening was presented by Wayne Hall, member of the steering committee of the Aegina Association of Active Citizens.

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    INTRODUCTION

    I would like us to be in agreement that in today’s discussion it will not be relevant whether we voted YES or NO in the referendum, whether it is mainly Simitis and Papandreou, Samaras and Venizelos, or Tsipras and Varoufakis who are most to blame for the present situation in Greece. I would like us to agree also that it is not going to be relevant today whether we prefer Greece to remain in the euro or to leave the euro. In any case this is a question that is not going to be decided by ordinary Greek citizens, at least for the moment. The conflict that is so evident in the Parliament around that subject, among others, is something we can monitor. The conflict in the mass media, in the talk shows, in the journalistic squabbles is something it is perhaps preferable for us not to watch, because as it seems its main purpose is to frighten us rather than inform us.

    The question of the media is of central importance. I think that even citizens who voted YES must have been at least uneasy about the stance taken by the Greek and international media in the week that preceded the referendum. This problem is also at the heart of the Appeal by German Greeks and Greek Germans and the Greek answer that was formulated by representatives of the three associations of Aegina: the Association of Active Citizens, the Ioannis Capodistrias Cultural Association and the Women’s Association.

    Professor Juergen Link, who initiated the Appeal by German Greeks and Greek Germans, proposes a seminar on the problem of the media, which in Germany cultivate hatred of Greeks and in Greece hatred of Germans. In reality what is needed is more than a seminar. What is needed is a form of pan-European politics that is not influenced by the media, which places a negative stigma on every influence from this direction. This is perhaps something for discussion among those who would like to be actively involved in such a project of delinkage from the media. We have already made a beginning with the programme we made in 2013 on the VMedia web channel Europe Starts from Here.

    In any case let us agree that for the purposes of today’s discussion it is not relevant which Greek politician has played the worst role. The subject is not Greek internal politics, or even Greece in general. The subject is Europe, the European Union, because the European Union as we have known it – this was written a day or two ago by the Irish journalist Fintan O’Toole – ended last weekend.

    European integration was based on three assumptions, three conditions. The first condition was that the process was consensual: each member state lost more and more of its sovereignty because it was choosing of its own free will to do so. The second term was that this step-by-step procedure was irreversible. This was the terminology of the Treaty of Maastricht on the subject of monetary union. It was not part of the scenario that you could change your mind and go back. Neither could others change their mind about you and send you back. The third assumption was implicit and had to do with the role of Germany. As we know, Germany was defeated in WorldWar II, and badly defeated. In return for the opportunity to make a new beginning after this defeat it was considered self-evident that Germany would not try yet again to become the hegemon of Europe.

    Today Germany is not only trying to become the hegemon of Europe. It is succeeding in becoming the hegemon of Europe. I suppose that most of us here will have seen yesterday’s address to Parliament by Yanis Varoufakis. Not everyone admires the role that Varoufakis has played, but I think the conclusions of that address will be generally accepted.

    Varoufakis calls the so-called agreement that has just been voted by Parliament a “new Treaty of Versailles”. But most SYRIZA parliamentarians supported it, for the sake of the unity of SYRIZA. “We in SYRIZA are and will be united, at the time that Europe strikes a blow against itself through procedures that the historian of the future will describe as the moment of dismantling of the dream of Adenauer, Constantine Caramanlis, Andreas Papandreou, Willy Brandt, Helmut Schmidt and Helmut Kohl.”

    There was uproar in the Parliament after the speech by Varoufakis. Outside the Parliament, also, there was pandemonium. Here we are not shouting, we are not denouncing, and the reason for that is not concern for the unity of SYRIZA. I hope that our concern here is for the citizens of Greece to remain united at this conjuncture. And the hope is also, perhaps, that just as in 1828 when the modern Greek state was founded in Aegina, this island will function today also as a haven of stability and security within the chaos of Greece.

    The question we put forward is “Has the European Union been a bad idea?” We raise it not as a declaration but as a question. Certainly the man we are going to hear now does not believe that the priority is to leave the euro, or the European Union. But is he right or wrong?

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    The video can be found online here.

    Note that in 2009 Ioannis Coccalas saw not Germany but France as the key obstacle to the whole European integration process. Those who are now embracing the French campaign for a Germanexit should bear that in mind. (More on that here).

    16th July 2015